Mike Carden, co-founder of Joyous hosts conversations with the world’s most interesting management thinkers.

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Fail Better: the art of intelligent risk taking at work



Harvard Business School

When we fail together, we’re disappointed together. So we roll up our sleeves and figure out what happens next, together.

Harvard Business School

Episode notes

Amy Edmondson (Harvard Business School) talks to Mike Carden about the importance of psychological safety, the difference between failure that’s worth learning and failure that should be avoided, and the role of failure in innovation and progress.



Amy is a pioneer of Psychological Safety, and ranked #1 on the Thinkers50 ranking of the world’s most influential management thinkers. She is the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at the Harvard Business School, and the author of eight books including Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well.

Key moments

Introduction to Amy Edmondson. (0:28)

The difference between psychological safety and belonging. (2:47)

Why did you write this book? (6:24)

Success is a meandering path. (10:50)

Becoming part of the Joyous journey. (13:45)

The most surprising thing about writing the book. (16:12)

How to thrive in a fallible world. (19:01)

The value of the 10%. (20:20)

The gift of knowing our true passions. (25:07)

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